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**R13** · November 3rd, 2010, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by GC-1

So what lies were told that cost Boucher his seat? And it needs to actually be a lie, something I can research and say "Griffith told an outright lie". IMO "attack ads" or "negative campaigning" isn't negative if the truth is told.

The "he co-wrote the cap and trade bill" = lie. The claim that there has been a net loss of 10k jobs since he took office = lie. The "votes with Obama 96% of the time" = lie. That Griffith can somehow stop the cap and trade legislation = lie. Just to name a few.

To sit here and say he didn't run strictly on a negative campaign or use attack ads, is completely ridiculous. Boucher never stooped to his level, which cost him, the yelling of his misleading campaign drowned out common sense and the truth.

**1inStripes** · November 3rd, 2010, 03:33 PM

So Boucher never used/approve negative campaining?

**MikMo** · November 3rd, 2010, 03:44 PM

I did not vote only because of the massive amount of mudslinging going on. It got way out of hand up here with Rand Paul and Jack Conway. If they want to act like school children, they dont deserve my vote.

And I'm sorry, anyone who thinks losing Rick Boucher would be good for SWVA, well, you're a frakking idiot.

**R13** · November 3rd, 2010, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by 1inStripes

So Boucher never used/approve negative campaining?

No he didn't.

**1inStripes** · November 3rd, 2010, 04:03 PM

Okay, then he shouldn't be happy with his own party for sending negative adds then.

**R13** · November 3rd, 2010, 04:06 PM

The only thing that was sent out by the DNC was the few mailings that just said he doesn't live here, which he doesn't, never has and has said that he will not move here.

**1inStripes** · November 3rd, 2010, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by R13

The only thing that was sent out by the DNC was the few mailings that just said he doesn't live here, which he doesn't, never has and has said that he will not move here.

I guess the one I got from the DNC was a complete abboration then which mentioned nothing about where Griffith lives but how he will make jobs leave this area.

**Rocky** · November 3rd, 2010, 04:09 PM

I do think its sad that people have so much hate for obama that they voted out Boucher, He HAS done for this area, id say a lot of people were afraid of cap and trade and the fact that OBAMA is totally against the coal industry........... thing is, Boucher wasnt against coal and he had plans to help us out even after cap and trade.

R13, Boucher really didnt help write up the cap and trade plan? I got a letter from him explaining how and why he did and how that he was backed by the coal industry to do it. Im not being a smartass im really confused as to why i would get a paper from his desk saying that if he wasnt that deeply involved in it? Explained why the coal companies were even involved in the process. Whats the deal with that then? I would really like to know if you could PM me or whatever it would be appreciated, seems if you put anything else in this thread it will explode.

Its sad to see Boucher go, he had a great run and kept our fragile economy in running shape, I guess with the election of Obama we can just expect bad things for this area, people are so far against him they wont keep someone beneficial in just because he backs Obama's agenda. We can just hope and pray that this new guy will put forth a little effort and get some work done in our area. I hope he is at least smart enough to fight to keep up funding for our prisons...... (the ones boucher fought like hell to get in here BTW) Im sure everyone knows on this board that im more on the conservative side than the liberal (by a **** ton) But even I could see the good that boucher did here. Im not saying it wasnt going to get worse, it could have especially for coal and the new power plant but hey why get rid of a good thing? Wait for the man to screw up before we call for his head.

**red66** · November 3rd, 2010, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rocky

Wait for the man to screw up before we call for his head.

Did you see that R13? You know absolutely nothing factual about Griffith it is all just your speculation that you think will happen because his politics are different than yours. I am sure that Griffith will do everything in his power to help our area and bring things in that Boucher did. You are making it seem like that Griffith will be getting paid off for making this area rot away. It is not as if Boucher had some magical powers that made people come here. Griffith will take a lot of what Boucher did right and expand on that. Just chill out and at least give the man a chance and not smash your sour grapes all over the place.

**Rocky** · November 3rd, 2010, 04:31 PM

Griffith isnt inexperienced or anything, even on Boucher's websites they praise him for his hard work and smarts, give the man a chance. he was house majority leader for what 9-10 years? I think he will do good for us, he is from Salem which when we redistrict im sure will be put here, if he brings anything close to this area it will help out. Give it time R13, if you want to blame something for Boucher losing blame Obamacare, people are scared to death of it.